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Connie: I’m excited to be talking to Ger Lyons today.

Ger is a Global and Spiritual Healer, Metaphysician and Seer from Ireland. He’s done many things, including Traditional Chinese Medicine, Acupuncture, Pranic Energy Healing, Bio-energetic Healing, Quantum Energy Healing, Breathwork, Sacred Tantra and is a Reiki Master and much more.

Ger now offers Core and Cellular Transformational Healing workshops around the world and will be here in Edmonton on November 19 – 25 for three-day or six-day workshops at Village Lifestyles. You can go to www.awakenyourspirit.ca or www.gerlyons.net for more information. Welcome, Ger.

Ger: Thank you, Connie. It’s great to be here. Thank you for having me on.

Connie: I’d like to start off by hearing your personal story. What got you started on this spiritual path? On your web site I read it started with a bee sting at age eight. Tell us that story.

Ger: Yes. That was kind of a bizarre thing. I was a young kid, eight years old. I was on holidays in the south of Ireland, the place that we normally went with the family. I was just in a field playing. I was on my own one day just wandering around the place and I felt this bee sting, this really bizarre and very intense sting in my leg. I’d been stung many times before. There are lots of bees in Ireland. So I recognized it as a bee sting. It was very intense, very painful – the whole rush of blood and emotion and swelling and pain…

I looked down and there was no bee and there was no sign of anything there; like my body and skin had reacted and everything, but I actually hadn’t been stung. I could feel this kind of well of emotion and fear and all kinds of stuff coming up and it didn’t seem to be mine. It was a really, really strange experience, Connie.

I went home afterwards, back to the trailer, the caravan we were staying in and realized that my brother had actually been stung by a bee on the leg, on his left leg exactly where I had felt it. He had reacted to it really badly and it was like his whole leg had swelled up. It was a really serious thing.

So I had a realization at that stage, one of many, that it was actually his experience that I was experiencing. I was miles away at the time. I was nowhere near him. We’re not twins. We’re not particularly connected or anything and from a twin point of view, in age we’re a couple of years apart. It was really, really strange.

It went on from then. From that experience I realized there was something a little bit different with my experience of reality and my experience of awareness of what was going on in life, what life was all about and how things worked and how the universe actually is and how it works. How could I possibly know or be able to feel or sense that – my brother’s experience?

One thing led to another after years and it got more and more intense. That was like about the first experience that I remember of awakening into that reality, but as the years went on, as I said, it got more and more kind of extreme and intense until it became almost overpowering and life became very, very strange, Connie. It became very bizarre and unusual. So yes, that was like the start of it and it just went on from there. I developed things from there.

Connie: Does this gift run in your family? How did you know what to do with it?

Ger: Well, I had no idea what to do with it or what it actually was or what I was experiencing. It doesn’t run in my family as such. My dad’s lineage comes from the Druidic bloodline going back thousands of years in Ireland, so there is that line that is quite strong and quite alive and quite active energetically. Other than that my mom is very psychic. She has a lot of insights and intuitive knowing about things. We were never able to get away with anything when we were kids, which was a bit of a nightmare, but it was hilarious at the same time, so there is that.

I do come from those two backgrounds, but I had no idea what to do with it, Connie. It was really unusual and I didn’t understand it. I had no idea what it was, where it was coming from or how to deal with it, how to work with it or what was actually going on. When I was 15-years-old … I met my first spiritual teacher, spiritual mentor and healing teacher. He was an old, elderly gentleman from Ireland and a traditional local healer from the place we grew up in at the south coast. Everyone thought he was nuts. Everyone thought he was off his trolley, so to speak. In those days, this was back in the ‘70s in Ireland, things were very interesting, shall we say.

He was amazing. That man taught me an incredible amount of things. I remember the first time I went in to see him. He brought me into his room and he took me over to the window and he told me to look out the window of this room. He said: “Look. See all of that stuff out there.” I said: “Okay.” He said: “See those cars on the road and the traffic lights and all of those people and all of that carrying on out there?” I said: “Yes.” He said: “That’s not actually really there.” I was going, “Okay.” He went on from there. I was looking at him and I was going: “Okay. Either this guy is a psychopath or he’s brilliant.” Luckily it turned out to be the latter.

He was amazing. He was an incredible teacher and an amazing healer and a metaphysician. He knew all of the medicines … principles, the ancient knowledge and wisdom of how the universe of energy and intelligence works. He was just an incredible character and he was both, born gifted and learned as well himself. He was amazing. Working with him from the age of 15, he brought me an amazing understanding of what was going on and I was able to learn what it was, what was happening and how it was happening and that it wasn’t actually a pathology or anything wrong in my head or energetically; that it just simply was a gift and that it was there for a purpose and how to work with it.

That was the key thing. It took me years after that as well learning how to work with it and operate it through systems of healing where I’d be able to work consciously with it and functionally with it to help people. That took another amount of years as well and led me to studies in Chinese Medicine and a lot of different traditional medicines in many different places, many different countries and cultures. It just set me off on an amazing journey into that mystery of metaphysics and energetic healing and energetic medicine and all of that. It was quite a journey from then on.

Connie: On your web site you talked about being tortured and how you transformed that trauma into a positive experience. Can you tell us about that?

Ger: Yes. I can talk a little bit about that, Connie. It was a long time ago… I was living in Belfast in Northern Ireland for a number of years and I worked with the conflict and the peace process up there, shall we say. Things sometimes got hairy and got a little bit difficult and challenging.

There came a point one time where I had a lot of information. I knew a lot of things from working with the people up there, so that information was valuable to certain people and basically to cut a long story short, I was taken at one point and kept in a room for six days. They tried to extract the information from me.

It was a very, very, very, very intense and pretty horrendous situation, Connie. Yes. I was electrocuted and beaten to a pulp, to within an inch of my life basically and left very, very, very, very, very badly damaged indeed. So it took me a lot of time to heal that. It took me a lot of time. It took me about four years before I could really, really get a handle on that. My internal organs were burnt out and my skin was destroyed. It was pretty intense. It was quite intense.

But what it did was it drove me … incredible pain, like physical pain in the body drove me to amazing depths within myself after that. It drove me to have to survive and have to deal with it and move on and search at the very, very, very bottom of the barrel, the deepest level in myself, to try to come to terms with it first of all, because I was not the same person after it, and to heal it.

That’s one of the things I often say (in workshops and to people who are in trouble or who have serious, serious situations going on, which are very, very painful), is that the greatest pain that we experience can be the most powerful engine that drives our search for healing, our search for God, our search for the divine; basically, our search to get better and to get to reach down into the deepest, darkest places when life becomes very, very, very deeply dark and get the jewels at the bottom of the barrel, so to speak. You know?

So it was a very intense experience, but very, very intense growth came out of it and an amazing amount of wisdom was learned. I basically witnessed myself being completely traumatized on every level and through that witnessing, I began to understand how my body dealt with it first of all, how different parts shut down, different parts of the mind shut down, different parts of the emotional body and the energetic systems and how the body actually dealt with that pain, both emotionally and psychologically and physically.

It was amazing, because I was conscious enough. I knew what was going on and I witnessed it and I could feel everything. I’ve always been able to do that. I’ve been able to feel everything inside my own body, so I could feel how it happened and what the internal organs were doing, what all of my energy systems were doing and how it shut down and compressed the trauma down into the body and then numbed it out and sealed it over so, basically, I would be able to survive.

It was just an incredible experience from many, many different levels. When something like that happens there are two ways to go. I chose the path of life and love, so to speak, and healing. It’s very, very easy to go the other way, to go into revenge and go into the other direction, but I chose and made a conscious decision to not go there and to go down the healing path, which was an amazing journey. It’s brought me so many gifts, Connie.

The last few years I can see the perfection, even though I would never, ever wish it on my worst enemy and I would never, ever want to go through anything like that again. But I suppose you make the most of these things and you get the wisdom from it. You get the knowledge. You get the experience. That experience is absolutely pure gold, because those experiences of how trauma operates and how I learned over the years to heal it and deal with it and completely regenerate my whole body, that experience is completely gold, that knowledge and that wisdom that I gained from that.

So I think everybody can make a choice as to which way you want to go with that in those situations. I think everybody has the ability. Everybody has this ability to go deep down inside and get that gold. It pushes you right back into you, way beyond death and way beyond pain, right back into your most basic source self. And when you have to access that, that’s the point where I think we access God and we access the divine and a much, much higher aspect of ourselves, which operates from a much, much higher place, which is where the healing comes from.

Connie: Was it during that time or after that time or due to that incident that you developed or learned how to develop what you do now, the Core and Cellular Transformational Healing?

Ger: Well, that experience magnified and amplified in a way what I do now. All of my life, from a young age, I have been working energetically with healing and with all kinds of systems, as I said before. I suppose the depth of what I do now and what I carry now and how the work has developed has come very much from that experience, yes.

Connie: Can you explain to us what exactly that is Core and Cellular Transformational Healing? What it is? How does it work?

Ger: It works very simply, Connie. There is a transmission of light that comes. Just from a practical reality point of view, if people come to a workshop or a session or something, what happens is we just sit facing each other or in a workshop situation we just sit in a circle. I use a little bit of music at the start, just to create a very safe and sacred space for people. Then I say an invocation. It’s like a prayer, but a prayer with intention that’s completely active and alive and plugged into a very high transitional energy. That prayer or invocation at the start opens up the entire space and it brings through a very, very powerful stream of light or like a transmission of energy where there’s a very high intelligence coming through it.

When that comes through it melts into the body into whoever is present. It melts into their bodies and it starts unraveling and releasing and melting through basically anything that’s not based on itself, Connie. So pretty much anything that’s not coming from a place of love or from our own innate inheritance, our divine nature as beings of light and love and the divine, which we carry inside of each one of us. Anything that’s not based on that, for example, any old trauma or old patterning or programming that really doesn’t serve us, all of that will be gently pushed out of the body by the stream of light and by the intelligence of the energy coming through.

So I guide people through a process of transformation with that, basically communicating with that intelligence. It’s just like a consciousness, just like another person, just as if we were talking to another person. It’s totally conscious and intelligent, the energy, so when we communicate with it, it basically does and acts on what we talk and what we pray or what we invoke. Everybody becomes completely plugged into that transmission and when they leave the workshop they can bring through that themselves.

It’s like an induction or an introduction. I suppose it’s just as if I introduce you to a friend of mine and then after you go away, you and my friend can now contact each other any time you want. It’s like an introduction, when people come to the workshop, to a very high transition of energy and a healing consciousness that comes through with it that does the work. Once they’re introduced to that they can go home and they have that as a friend, as an ally for the rest of their lives if they wish to communicate with it or not.

During the course of the process there’s a very deep embodiment of that energy. It starts to come through more and more and more. The more people sit in the energy and sit with that stream of consciousness coming through, the more it just keeps opening and opening and opening the body and the cellular memory and the cellular structure. Any tightness or sickness or disease or anything that’s there cannot actually stay and survive in the body with that light coming through. It has to release.

Connie: I was reading Sherry Olson’s book, Core and Cellular Transformational Healing, One Woman’s Journey to the Divine, (2009) and she talks about feeling this very profound transmission of healing energy come through her at your workshops. Is that a common experience for all of your workshop participants?

Ger: Yes. It is pretty common, Connie. Everybody experiences it in a different way or in various different ways. Some people’s experiences are very, very intense. Sometimes it’s a very subtle experience for people. Sometimes the release and the transformation can be quite rapid and immediate. Other times it’s a process and a journey of exploration and discovery for people in their own growth process and where they’re at with that.

It’s not like a structured formula where people come and this will happen. It’s more like people will come and the energy will come through every single person in that room without a doubt, 100%. It’s like wherever they’re at, whatever they’re ready to let go or deal with or work with or look at will be exactly presented to them as is.

It will push on anything that they’re ready to let go, any aspects of their life that maybe don’t serve them any more or any aches or pains or headaches, any physical sickness or disease or any kind of old programming or pattern that may be creating a sickness or a disease. All of those configurations will start to dismantle and break down and leave.

Everybody will have their own experience of the energy. It’s like their own reflection. It’s a little bit like the mirror in the bathroom and when people go into it they will see what they need to see within themselves.

Some people, when they’re ready to open up or if they have a calling as a healer, very often that will become very, very prevalent very, very soon and it’s very, very easy to see that. People, like Sherry, as you may have read in her experience, she opened very, very quickly and the energy just started pumping through and started working with her pretty much instantaneously, but there are many people that this happens to very often. It doesn’t happen to everybody like that. Everybody will have their own experience of it, but it is quite common.

Connie: So then you’re basically like a conductor of the energy then. Is that right?

Ger: Yes, pretty much. I’m not actually the healer. Yes, like a conductor is probably a good word for it. Basically, I simply just kind of open myself up and the energy – the intelligence of the energy, is what does the healing. So it’s not actually me. I don’t really do the healing myself out of my own strength, out of my own will or my own intellect. The energy does and the intelligence does come through my body, but it also comes through everybody’s body in the workshop. That’s what guides and directs us.

My role, I suppose, Connie, in a way is more like a translator or an interpreter I would say. If somebody were speaking Mandarin Chinese and I could speak both I would sit there and I would interpret and translate the Chinese into English and vice-versa. So it’s a little bit like that. In respect to what I do is I translate and interpret the expansion and contraction of the energy and the intelligence of it as it’s coming through. Then I guide people through a process in accordance to that, so the energy is coming from God. It’s coming from the source or from a place of very, very high and pure love, but it’s not coming from me. It’s coming through me. It’s also coming through everybody.

It doesn’t like set up an addiction or a dependency on me because it’s like everybody has their own process and everybody will have their own relationship to it just, as I said, just as a friend – just as if I brought you into a workshop and said: “Hey, everybody. This is my new friend Connie. I’m delighted to have you here, Connie.” Then everybody knows you, so then they all have their own individual relationship with you. They can communicate with you any time they want. It’s a little bit like that. The intelligence is completely expansive and nobody is excluded or left out or left behind. It totally just expands through every single person, who sits there within the workshop space.

Connie: In that way, is it a little bit like Reiki or that whole idea where people are attuned – like there is an attunement or process and then the people can go and do it themselves once they’re attuned?

Ger: Reiki is a little bit different. Reiki is actually quite different. There is a certain amount of attunement, but it’s more like an induction. It’s more like an introduction to it and an embodiment of it, so there’s an actual consciousness that we plug into. It’s literally like plugging into something. It’s like if you plug your stereo or your laptop into the wall, into the socket. Sometimes it literally feels like that, like you just plug in. You just plug into the source of transmission.

It’s more like it becomes an embodiment, Connie, more than the Reiki transmission, so it’s quite different. I mean it’s similar in the way that all healing is good. All healing comes from the divine source eventually, but it is quite a different type of thing that expands very, very fast and very, very intensely through the body in an embodied way, so you get to feel like a living charge in every cell. It’s quite an intense thing when it’s experienced.

Connie: What does it feel like for you to experience this sacred energy coming through? What is that like?

Ger: What I do first, is I sit down and say the invocation. There is a little bit of preparation before I say it, which is why I play the music at the start. It gives me time to sit. I reach up, so to speak, as if into the heart of our creator, into the heart of God. I ask for the highest good and the highest healing of everybody in the space … be done. I ask to be used as an instrument of the love of God and love of our creator and for healing. That just happens. It simply happens. The energy starts pouring through.

When that happens, the moment I start saying the invocation my whole body goes into a very deep state of peace. There’s an enormous amount of love that comes through. My heart just completely expands. Any tension that might have built up in the body over the day just immediately dissolves. There’s a very deep sense, like an indestructible sense of love that comes through with it, Connie, which is quite extraordinary and quite difficult to explain in a way in English.

It’s like it doesn’t matter what people do, what they’ve done, who they are or where they’ve come from. Somebody could come up and shoot me in the head on the spot and I would still love them and I would still be there for healing for them. It’s that kind of feeling, which is completely unconditional and unstoppable and indestructible.

It takes over the whole body. It takes over my whole consciousness. It’s very, very intense. My vision and my whole sensory perception starts to change and shift the minute that happens as well. So it’s like opening up into a whole different space or into a whole different reality. All of my sensitivities become very, very, very, very heightened and very super aware, super conscious and super sensitive. I’m like hyper sensitive energetically, so that’s why we have some guidelines in the workshop where we have as much silence as possible or only one person is speaking at the same time, for example. I need that sensitivity to work energetically. I become like wide open energetically.

It’s a little bit tricky to explain it in English. It’s very much an experience thing obviously, but it’s a little bit like that. There’s just a huge amount of love that comes through and a huge amount of sensitivity in order to do the work and interpret the energy.

Connie: How does this type of healing help people with genetic disorders or issues that people were born with, like diseases that are genetic?

Ger: Well, any disease that’s genetic, what we do, Connie, is go right into the base, root cause of what it is that creates the whole thing in the first place and try to get right into the root of that. So whether it’s genetic or in the cellular memory or in the DNA or whether it’s passed on from ancestors in the family, wherever it’s come from, we try and journey right into the origins of that. It very often exposes and we get to see where it’s come from. Sometimes some things can come from like eight generations back where it’s passed on through the family lineage and it becomes part of our physiological inheritance in a way.

In that respect it doesn’t really matter what anybody is dealing with. I’ve seen the most difficult cases of all kinds of genetic and inherent conditions and diseases be able to be healed and unraveled and dissolved. It really depends on the person and it depends on their relationship with the divine and their relationship with the healing energy and the intelligence.

If they are ready to heal there is nothing that cannot be healed. I really mean that and I’m saying that from experience when I’m talking. There really is nothing that cannot be healed. I’ve seen all kind of things dissolve and disperse. As I said, some things are very, very, very fast and some things are a whole journey. I’ve seen people go through a year of work and work really hard in that journey. They reap what they sow at the end and the work they put into it, the exploration and discovery of the illness or the disease in itself can be very healing. That may be what they need. It’s a whole journey for everybody, whatever they’re ready to deal with.

Connie: You’ve traveled the whole world doing these workshops. What was one of your most memorable healings you witnessed?

Ger: Wow! That’s quite a question. The most memorable healing?

Connie: Is there one that comes to your mind that you’d like to share?

Ger: One that comes to mind? Let’s see. There are many, many, many, many, many. I think back in ’97 there was a lady with MS. After four days of workshop she got up out of the wheelchair. She was basically carried up the stairs. The wheelchair was carried up the stairs to the workshop. She walked out herself after it.

A few years back there was a lady with cancer, liver cancer, in Belfast in Northern Ireland, who was given literally a few months to live. She had four individual sessions and she completely dissolved the whole cancer. The whole thing was just gone. She’s still alive today.

I mean there are many, many things. There was a blind lady who got her sight back at one point. There are all kinds of things. I could go on and on.

Whatever it is for people, whatever intensity or whatever, however dramatic it is for people, I think the most beautiful thing in the healing, Connie, is for me to feel completely humbled and honored and privileged to be able to witness that blossoming of somebody’s soul into whatever it is that they have come with and whatever it is that they’ve let go. That blossoming is like a miracle in itself.

We have a lot of people, who come with childhood abuse and traumas and people who were horrendously abused as children and they come and they just completely heal. It’s really, really easy. The damage can be healed. It can be healed. Some people come tormented and relationships never work for them and they can just really, really get a handle on the patterning and programming that they’re operating out of and let it go and release it and come into peace and develop beautiful relationships. So there are all kinds of things that happen and all kinds of people from all walks of life come and heal and share in that journey.

Connie: I’m going to ask you one last thing because it says that you worked with the Dalai Lama. Can you just tell us a little story about that?

Ger: Yes. It was a few years back. We actually brought him to Belfast. I was part of a group in London that was working a lot called Global Mantra. We decided to get him to come to Belfast in Northern Ireland. It was quite an amazing event. He came. He agreed to come, which was a miracle in itself. We never thought he would actually agree.

Connie, it was unbelievable. I think for the first time in the history of the Northern Ireland conflict between the Irish and the British Catholics and Protestants, (which has been really intense for 800 years, which is a long time), for the first time in the history of that conflict the two sides of the fence laid down all of their weapons and they agreed to have complete peace while he was there. They even came together, like … military from both sides of the fence came together to work together for him to do security and crime control. It wasn’t needed, of course. There wasn’t any security control needed for those particular events in Belfast when he was there, but it was unheard of that the different … military groups would lay down their weapons and come and work together for any kind of a cause, but for the Dalai Lama they did that. That was extraordinary.

He was there for a week and it created an enormous impact in Belfast and the whole consciousness of Northern Ireland. It was amazing. We did an incredible set of seminars and lectures and conferences and talks and meetings with him. There were dozens and dozens of people involved. It did make a huge difference. It made an enormous difference to the place.

Connie: I remember when that happened.

Ger: Do you really?

Connie: I do, because it was a big deal.

Ger: It was. It was a huge deal. It was amazing. It was quite extraordinary. The ripples from that are still there. People still talk about that event because nobody like that really wanted to come that much to Belfast. There was zero tourist population or tourist industry in Northern Ireland, obviously, because of the whole situation.

So it was an amazing kind of turning point and it did create a huge shift in everything there because of him. He was so funny. He was hilarious. He was really so funny. He did it. We thought he’d come and it would be all serious and somber, which a lot of it was because there was a lot of talks and you have to do a lot of preparation for it, but he dealt with it beautifully. He talked to Protestant ministers and the Catholic priests and the Protestant leaders and all of the political leaders. He just did it beautifully with humor, which was a total delight. It was amazing. Yes.

Connie: I want to thank you very much for talking with us today and for giving us an interview. I look forward to seeing you at your workshop. I think it’s going to be really good.

Again, if anyone is interested in more information they can check out your web site at www.gerlyons.net or contact Sherry Olson at sherry@awakenyourspirit.ca or 780-554-1891. Thank you, Ger.

Ger: Beautiful. Thank you, Connie. It was great talking to you.

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